Introduction to the Ego/Self Vector, Szondi Test Modernized

Introduction to the Ego/Self Vector, Szondi Test Modernized Introduction to Leopold Szondi's Unique Exposition of the Ego and it's functions. as a theory derived from the projections of various subjects taken across a varied social and clinical samples.  The "EGO THEORY" of the analysis of vicissitudes ('Vicissitudes' being Dr Szondi's term for his system of understanding the human drives he attributed to all humans. This theory was based upon a number of conceits derived from several decades of research using first, genealogical studies and later, the Szondi Test he invented. The end result of this mode study makes for a different view of the Ego, or Self, than today's, Self Psychologists accept, common usage or as defined by Sigmund Freud, as his well known, Tripartite" concept or Ego, Id and Super-ego. Szondi's view is based on the articulation of what he believed was the neuro-inheritance formed relationship existing between a person's Schizophrene inheritance, which was built from two functional oppositions and is age, hormonal and circumstance modifiable. He saw the pairing of Catatonia= [k] and Paranoia = [p], as being the Ego's genetic based origins. While today one can make many arguments against accepting or that premise, it is difficult to disprove in total. Also the mapping of the human Genome has renewed interest in this concept. Ultimately it is, as Szondi said himself about his larger system "..don't reject my theories until you see for yourself, how well they work."  His theory of ancestor back derived systems of drives, impulses, strivings, and needs is very speculative and interesting but to use the Szondi Test as a practical interment for counseling and therapy, with an intention to expose a person's dynamics and have suable clues to work from, one only needs to use, a practical logic based on reconciling lenitive the test findings with observations or other known facts. This is also the situation with the use of some other projective tests and various inventories in use to day that are aimed at being useful in aiding the counselor/therapist in his work.  Experience show that each therapist/counselor may have to rework some characterization of his findings based on each different client types. The old saying that one size does not fit all-- may ring true at times. Next: The Sixteen Ego Settings as filtered out by The Szondi Test.

Fate Analysis answers (descriptively) the issues of human behaviors, from a different perspective

Site is under constriction and navigation is not fully in place yet. If you arrived here looking for the current study group on the Szondi Test teachings on the experimental findings contrasted  against today's  DSM-IV Bipolar, Manic and Depressive, and the  rewrites of the unique views and insights of Hungarian psychiatrist, Leopold Szondi, MD and his Contact/Cyclic/Polar Vector" --It is presented in  posts and  the pages on the top right.  of oof your screen.

Through the magic of the internet I am reachable worldwide. I can answer most your questions on the Szondi Test and the drive psychology developed by Professor Szondi and its ultimate decribing of the forms of exisance as the fates of humans which filled out his concept of his work being "Fate Analysis."
Am I normal?--here are many 'Normals' --and mot abnorms are examples of sonething normal existing in an exagerarged or overly presistant form.
I have tender feelings for some of my same sex friends--Am I queer?
My boyfiend is bipolar and sometimes mean to me--can he change?
I've been diagnosed with ADD--does it show up in the Szondi Test?
Dr. Szondi called the Szondi Test, developed psychological teachings, "Fate Analysis" --As the outcome of your drives, he believed, determines your choices in love mates, friendships, occupation, certain illnesses, and ultimately, the form of existence, you will end up living.
I know it's stupid and not right--and I wish it was otherwise--but I hate my mother--How did I get that way? Did she ot I cause this disconnect?

Use comments to post a question on your issues and they will be answered as best I can from a fateanaytic perspective, which may or may not have any scientific support, but a least might be a different way of looking at things. -----------------------------;-----------------------------------
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Be sure and check "pages" in the right sidebar as that is where the\Contact/Cyclic Vector--Basis of all elements, called "Bipolar" is unfolding at about a section a day, in first draft and 4-30-2012  mostly finished, cleaning up some ambiguities etc--before a study of the Sexual/Gender Vector is attempted in similar detail. -Dr. Butler
passed 2011 A study of Ego  unfolding was posted. It followed the development of the Szondi Test detectable changes, related to Ego. developent from infancy through chldhood to adult stance. This following, for the most part the astute observations of Susan Deri, along with some of my own later developed views. The Sexual/Gender and other Szondi Vectors have not really been renamed, or changed, but filled in to make clear what is the focus of each study segment relates to. --Dr. B
"As filtered out by the Szondi Test; the personality consists of four gene ancestor four Vectors of influences, hard wired in the brain and which serve as foundation for a person's preferred choice making throughout his life, his mate, friendships, occupation and and untimely his dealing methods for coping with life, his froms of existence. Dr. Szondi called this at first. the individual's language of choice. A perhaps primative "pre-language" rooted in ancestors eons past.
The four heredity set Vectors; each with various settings which are also modeds of representing  unique functions of the personality. 1] Sexual/Gender "S" [h][s] 2] Paroxysmal/Emotional "P" [e][hy] 3] Ego/Self Direction/Participation "SCH" [k][p] 4] Contact/Cyclic/Polar "C" [d][m]
Each of the four above "Vectors" has within, two naturally opposed primitive gene passed cores that are essential to every humans passage to adult stance.  It was the insight of Hungarian psychiatrist, Leopold Szondi, that these core elements when existing in an exaggerated form,where also the same or basis to being, the psychiatric condition they resembled. He build at first, a gene ancestor theory derived form gemological studies showing the appearance of psychiatric and  various medical disorders as they showed up in various family heredity lines, as choice preferences recurring in a family line. A laborious reseach lasting over a decade. He longed for a better quicker way to detect these gene set affinities. Stangely, the idea of a projective test using facial photos of person with a family history and clinical diagnosis of the same key psychiatric conditions as the provolver of a like or dislike, he reported came to him a dream. After which he developed the Szondi Test, after first considering calling it, the "Genic Affinity Test".
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Our definition of the Ego for the infant is the developed awareness of the difference between one self and others.

Our definition of the Ego for the infant is the developed awareness of the difference between one self and others. as infancy changes into childhood, along with all the features of growth, metabolic, neurological, hormonal, there is evidence of some awareness of fundamental needs and a searching to satisfy them. This is the basis for the belief there is an early 'pre verbal' or 'primitive' Ego
Within a few months perhaps as the developing brain readies for later developments of thinking and language (the later) unique to mankind. A system of impulse handing also develops concurrently. This early Ego appears to expand its controlling and adapting powers exponentially as language and basic thinking skills are acquired. At the same time the first 'primary' relations to significant others. partially remain and are not automatically over thrown and are carried over into the sequential development stages.
To set these unfolding stages into perspective for us Susan Deri translated the Szondi Test signs belonging to the Ego sphere (Sch) and putting aside the issues belonging to the three Szondi Vectors Sexual (S), Paroxysmal/Affect (P) and Contact/Mood (C). These three Vectors of course generate the needs and strivings a particular Ego setting has to handle. Different Ego patterns have different modes of doing their moderation work, Later in clinical examples our experimental test findings will reflect the fact that an adult under sufficient pressure or stress may regress to the use of Ego patterns belonging to his childhood.

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The constraints of the Szondi Test permits filtering out of sixteen Ego Patterns.

2011 YEAR THE EGO WAS REVUED, in Szondi's composed of the articulation of Catatonic and Paranoid ancestor set impulse strivings. Both 'Schizophrene' in exaggerated forms, thus coded "Sch" 

 I expect to rewrite this sections after I cover the other Vectors. Sexual/Gender, Paroxysmal/Emotional.

For the purpose of study, this table is useful as a reference, Far more useful and interesting is the Ego development (as [k] and [p] choices, generated by tested individuala) as demonstrated within  the contraints of the experimental test. {All prospective tests have constraints that need be recognized. A point easy to overlook.} These fndins thenpermit a visualization of the relative intensities of the drives that he test material seeks to measure, however in a schematic form, from which a experimentor may use to create his intrepretation of what he believes the results represents. To due this he must be aware of what similar results where associated with in other individuals and their normal or clinical history. The generalizations that are offered here are for that purpose, but are all so useful as psychological terms in themselves useful for any student of psychology, mental health, social work, education or related human behavior studies.

The Ego (Self) of Leopold Szondi (MD, Hungarian,(later Swiss) World War I physician, university professor, Hungarian government education specialist, genealogist, endocrinologist and psychoanalyst. Inventor, The Szondi Test (At first, called "Genic affinity experimental test.")

 The various Ego positions:

THE EGO HAS RECOGNIZABLE POSTIONS OR SETTINGS WHICH CHANGE WITH DEVELOPMENT AND USEAGE.

They unfold from infancy to old age. This in respect to the Ego Vector here. Later you will each of a person's also exert their strivings at the same moment in time. The larger system is to be understood for it's parts, which may be confusing at first, but should be rewarding to explore for students of human nature. 

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The Ego Stages as reflected in the Szondi Test.

The Ego Stages as reflected in the Szondi Test. "The Ego is your steering device."

The Unfolding of the Ego.

Normally, Ego development takes place according to a detailed six stage schema as proposed by Susan Deri, "Introduction to the Szondi Test" [Grune & Strattion, N.Y. 1949. Her order is followed here, but the characterizations are arbitrarily revised into capsulations, for our study purposes. French Edition is currently in print. (Louvain University Press.)

1. (k0 p-)

Adualism: The indistinction between the ego and the other (up to one year). [See J. Paiget ] [In the adult it is called the 'paranoid Ego' and an indication of a regressive thought mode.

2. (k+ p-)

Childish Omnipotence: The magical-autistical omnipotence (pre-oedipian period). [See Melanne Kline's, not so benign view of infancy.] [See, J. Lancan," Mirror Phase"]

3. (± -)

Beginning accomidation, turbulence, resistance. (First Oedipian Separations) [See Winnicot ] [See Toilet Training, Early Care Takers.] [The "Restless Ego" of many talented Adults.]

4. (- -)

Acceptance, accomidation (The pressure to conform and the social rewards, the latency period. [The Drill Ego of Adults-Suggesting that many never fully go beyond this mode of Ego development.]

5. (- 0)
If acceptance and accomidation is successful, the start of adolescence the young person may then try to replicate that which was accepted earler ['The Mild Compulsive Ego' when found in profiles, one or two decades later. ]

6. (- +)

Adolescence. Mating impluse asserts on several levels and the desire previously repressed reaches consciousness backed by the newly aquired physical ability to do so. That this will meet with many set backs and frustrations, a well known feature of passing through adolesence. For many it will be the first serious Ego failure and the overwhelmed Ego may move to a kind of grid lock crises [k± p±] or what seems like a tuning off of thinking and feeling [k0 p0], or some will move back to older Ego settings with which they feel more secure however childish it may seem. Many show an appearance of [k+] and as well an awareness of depression [d+] as they restart a new search for fulfillment. In adults it is the 'Fully compulsive Ego'.

Comment.

For us as students of human nature, we ask what is it beyond this theoretical passage of the Ego that will address our desire to understand the larger issues and concerns in respect to ultimate behavior? What can we by this Szondi Test that offers insight in those humans who develop atypical or outright abnormal forms of existance?

The best answer I can offer now is, we can recast almost everything you previously believed to be psychologically caused, in the Szondi coding system, but our new metaphors also leave many who's and why's awaiting answer. The metaphors of the settings, and the strivings and what they represent are crafted from the unconscious choices by tested persons. This is done without extracting a verbal inventory, in fact you need not even speak the language of the tested subject, as long is he follows the choice procedure correctly.