Showing posts with label Szoni Test. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Szoni Test. Show all posts

Tuesday, February 7, 2012

Szondi's Contact/Cyclic/Mood/Polar Vector (Where Relationships Can Drive one Bipolar..


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Study group (Here)
http://theszonditest01-chirobut.blogspot.com/



The Basic Conflict-Cause of Neurosis


http://chirobut30.blogspot.com/

The constraints of the Szondi Test permits filter...
http://theszonditest01-chirobut.blogspot.com/2012/02/some-miscellaneous-szondi-concepts-post.html



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http://mountainsoftwarewriter01.blogspot.com/2010/05/e-mail-from-mountain-software-writermay.html



The Ego Stages as reflected in the Szondi Test. [2011 Study offering.]

http://theszonditest01-chirobut.blogspot.com/2009/08/ego-stages-as-reflected-in-szondi-test.html

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Welcome--Everyone has to start someplace--or someplace different later on. If you have an interest in humans and how they work you should find a lot of food for thought here. It not the usual stuff. Follow the grown of the little guy's Ego from breast to adult stance as filtered out and theoized from the various settings invented by Hungarian Psychiatrist, Leopold Szondi and his astute student and co-worker Susan Deri.


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Szondi's Contact/Cyclic/Mood/Polar Vector (Where Relationships  Can Drive one Bipolar..
 My modernizations here can be wrong,
test everything against the original, please. Feel
 free to question, This is a study group.



Certain Original images (L. Szondi (c) Grune and Straton/ NY./Hans Huber/Bern, Swiss.) were revised for fair use teaching purposes. You are advised to obtain the SZONDI TEST set and books directly  from the copywrite owners. This is educational commentary and the responsibility for the views offered and whatever errors that my reporting makes are my responsibility. Scientific value is left your judgment.


Even without the Szondi Test
the categories and terms
expand will expand how you
view the nature of mankind
when viewed from the various
outcomes of his gene ancestor
 based drive structure.




The Szondi Reagant Photos and the personality traits of those who avoid them as they talke the Szondi Test. I start here because if a frequent finding and not any random occurance, supporting Szondi' contention the photos were of reagent quality useful as a projective test.


Along with some from a generation before you --
you can puzzle on why/how-- out of 48 picture representing, 8 psychiatric types, a person can avoid cossing two specificc types. You don't need the test set to do the mind work that I touch on here, but it is a lot more interesting, with it, especially when you test yourself to to  'see' an image of yourself or others, class mates family and actual cases..

  This common finding C=[d0][m0], in the Contact Vector (Or [Cyclic/Contact Vector] as renamed to include various modes of bonding and contact with aspects of reality also found to be traits and strivings and needs detected to be asserting in manic deppressive individuals. We will try to explore the various  [d] and [m] articulation with Szondi Test of interpretive importance. (And you can deside for yourself it's usefulness and validness.)
RED= 1 LIKE, BLACK= 1 DISLIKE as
seen from a middle line with 6 spaces
above an 6 below, here it is realtiviy
an avoidance in all 4 possible 
directions--Called a double 'open', the 
strivings a decided would indicate
are not "gone" but exist background.










Now going deeper in the specific avoidance of like or dislike of the SZ photos ff the psychometric types manic an depressive. (DSM IV readers need to hold off trying to use today's terms until they cover the full sixteen settings and understand it is settings in the other three Vectors that determe, any final  move to a clinical outcome,  before any clinical outcome beyond normal cyclic is reached thus, there the setting reflect are those mainly normal, but not allways pleasant adjustments that most people make.)


Alone with some from a generation before you --
you can puzzle on why/how-- out of 48 picture representing, 8 psychiatric types, a person can avoid cossing two specificc types. You don't need the test set to do the mind work I touch on here, but it is a lot more interesting, with it, especially when you test yourself to to  'see' an image of yourself.

 We will display one after the other the settings and findings in the Contact Vector (Or [Cyclic Vector] as renamed to include various modes of bonding and contact with aspects of reality, also they are believed to asserting in this [d] and [m] articulation with comment of Szondi Test interpretive importance. as we go.)

 A 'double open'. A  'setting' or 'finding' not so common in the other three Vectors, where the subject avoids BOTH the liking or disliking choices (asumed to be unconsciously made action) as he takes the Szondi Test in the proper sequence. (In your editor's limited experience, this "setting" [d=0][m=0] seemed to be the frequent one of young adults entering into relationships without being ready or transitiional to separation from their families of orign and same time not really ready to bond sincerely with the new significant person  and same time sexual and ego strivings that may be over active. [look to the[ Sexual Vector]. [Paroxysmal Vector and   Ego Vector] for other settings representing what then is ] probably dominating the both thinking and behavior at that moment in time. This image shoe one liked and one same factor disliked, which is relative speaking still avoidance significant, but more often is a single or sometines none at all.


Meet Cyclic Setting #1 of 16] (Order of frequency according to Dr. Szondi)

on here, but it is a lot more interesting, with it, especially when you test yourself to to sort of 'see' an image of yourself.


 Close up of a common finding in the Contact Vector (Or [Cyclic Vector] as renamed to include various modes of bonding and contact with aspects of reality also found to be asserting in  this [d] and [m] articulation with Szondi Test's interpretive importance.)

 A double "open" (we theorise to be)an foreground absence of all the the core strivings of entire  C Vector,  Here the Cyclic/Contact/Polar which is build from the natural antagonists of depressives and manics.
. A double open finding not so common in the other three Vectors,  it is where the subject avoids BOTH the liking or disliking choices (asumed to be unconsciously made action) as he takes the Szondi Test in the proper sequence. (In your editor's limited experience, this "setting" [d=0][m=0] seemed to be the frequent one of young adults entering into relationships without being ready for separation from their families of orign and same time not really ready to bond sincerely with the new significant person  and same time sexual and ego strivings that may be over active. [look to the[ Sexual Vector]. [Paroxysmal Vecto[r and   Ego Vector] for other settings representing what then is ] probably dominating the both thinking and behaviour at that moment in time.

This will get clearer as to significance as we move through the sequence.

Comment: I was introduced to this experimental method by my  (circa 1951-2) professor, who said you just have to see this for yourself. Well seeing it for myself I did, and while now I cop out of any claim of scientific proof. I tell you the same thing.


In the setting [d=0][m=0] (It can also writen as "C=00" leaving out the 'understood' {d}{m}) as making it a sort of jargon thing you will soon master.




Szondi teaches us that subjects being SZONDI Test, procedure is done by his like and dislike choice making of the 48 SZ reagent photos. Therefore the choices the subject has performed an act that can only be explained on a theoretical subconscious  projection basis, the results of which then reflects projectivly his drives, inclinatons and needs (when correctly understood the related strvings asserting, at the time of the test sample was made. This the total system is also a drive psychology.   



The results are said to be made by a subconscious filtering not by chance. Also these setting detected will change paralleled to subjects inner strivings, in respect to their strength and how they are being satisfied. Therefor multiple samplings, usually a series of ten testings of a person needs to be produced before jumping to making anything more than tentative interpretations..





It needs to be remembered that a "setting" reflects the moment repeat samples are