Szondi Test Study Group Page views: April 2012= 470                     May  2012=497                     June 2012=306 Page views all time history: 3,536 //July 1, 2012  3842 pageviews - 43 posts// August 13, 2012 4001 pageviews// September 13, 2012  September 2012 PAGE VIEWS=185 Pageviews all time history to October 5,2012 4,149 New content on the Szondi Ego/Self Vector is actively being prepared off line, look for it soon.  Thanks, Please come back. The Next Szondi Vector to be explored being prepared off line is the Szondian Ego/Self Vector, which will suffer a good deal of modernization, from a new generation of Szondi Test Experimenters. Dr. Szondi called his test method 'experimental' and that the test results of thousands of profile samples and matching known clinical facts drove the various empirical attributions offered. While the making of any claim of being an exact science is difficult to support, the practical usefulness of this approach should be obvious to all whose interests involve the understanding of human nature and what the hidden aspects of it may be  that lie behind personality and certain behaviors. One needs to consider could it be correct, that everyone is as an unique mixture of eight lines of inheritance, that are also psychiatric conditions when existing in an exaggerated amount?

Follow the newest content down to end and then open  "pages" top right where more content is stored in the form of 'pages'. You need to check pages as they may be more what you are looking for than posts. --Dr. B New---  July 15, 2012 New page on introduction to Dr. Szondi's Conception of the Ego as being represented as the articulation between Catatonia and Paranoia, (the two thought disoders unique to mankind), collectively coded, in the SZ grid as  the Schizophrenic Inheritance (Sch).

The 48 SZ Reagent Photos. in six compartments, each with the facial photos of the 8 psychiatric disorder patients, that Hungarian Professor and Psychiatrist, Dr. Leopold (Lipot) Szondi argued, were the universal inheritance of every human. Here in their-- faded blue box, "The Szondi Test" Copyright/Hans Huber/Bern-Swiss. Still in Production. Further these selected reagent quality photos, are liked. disliked or avoided by people taking the test, very much as a projection of the psychiatric implulse mix unique to that person's personality, as it exists at the time of the test sample. While it is obvious  Dr Szondi and his students took this serioualy, he nevertheless, referred to this mode of research as "The Experimental Diagnostics of Vicissitudes."

Each SZ Reagent photo has a code on the the back. that the test administrator has to transcible into a ingenious grid, where a subject's choices form a "Psychogram", that is then useful for interpretation by counselors, therapists and psychometrists. The Szondi Profile Grid Four SZ Vector or Heredity Spheres Each Psychiatric Disorder is a "SZ FACTOR" Each SZ Vector is built of  2 intimately related  gene antagonists. The are order accross the grid on a what works best in the experimental work. .{S}=Sexual/Gender= [h] erotic overcharged homosexuals [s] sadistic males. {P}=Paroxymal/Emotional=[e](stance and inclinations from); [e] Epileptic  and [hy]  Hysteric inheritance. {Sch} Stance and inclinations from Inheritance Catatonic/Introjective [k] and paranoid projective stance and inclinations [p]. {C} Contact/Cyclic/Bipolar; manic [m] and depressive their stance's and inclinations.

Introduction to the Ego/Self Vector, Szondi Test Modernized

Introduction to the Ego/Self Vector, Szondi Test Modernized Introduction to Leopold Szondi's Unique Exposition of the Ego and it's functions. as a theory derived from the projections of various subjects taken across a varied social and clinical samples.  The "EGO THEORY" of the analysis of vicissitudes ('Vicissitudes' being Dr Szondi's term for his system of understanding the human drives he attributed to all humans. This theory was based upon a number of conceits derived from several decades of research using first, genealogical studies and later, the Szondi Test he invented. The end result of this mode study makes for a different view of the Ego, or Self, than today's, Self Psychologists accept, common usage or as defined by Sigmund Freud, as his well known, Tripartite" concept or Ego, Id and Super-ego. Szondi's view is based on the articulation of what he believed was the neuro-inheritance formed relationship existing between a person's Schizophrene inheritance, which was built from two functional oppositions and is age, hormonal and circumstance modifiable. He saw the pairing of Catatonia= [k] and Paranoia = [p], as being the Ego's genetic based origins. While today one can make many arguments against accepting or that premise, it is difficult to disprove in total. Also the mapping of the human Genome has renewed interest in this concept. Ultimately it is, as Szondi said himself about his larger system "..don't reject my theories until you see for yourself, how well they work."  His theory of ancestor back derived systems of drives, impulses, strivings, and needs is very speculative and interesting but to use the Szondi Test as a practical interment for counseling and therapy, with an intention to expose a person's dynamics and have suable clues to work from, one only needs to use, a practical logic based on reconciling lenitive the test findings with observations or other known facts. This is also the situation with the use of some other projective tests and various inventories in use to day that are aimed at being useful in aiding the counselor/therapist in his work.  Experience show that each therapist/counselor may have to rework some characterization of his findings based on each different client types. The old saying that one size does not fit all-- may ring true at times. Next: The Sixteen Ego Settings as filtered out by The Szondi Test.

Szondi Test "Uni-tendencies" as tool to study personality by exaggerated examples.

Szondi Test "Uni-tendencies" as tool to study personality by exaggerated  examples.\\ A uni-tendency is repsented, as an avoidence projection pared with a like or dislike "decided" coice. In each SZ Vector their are four such possabilities do to the way the test grid is structered. To understand the 'exaggeration' It is useful to see this setting as representing a shift of the control or influence inherent in that SZ factor to the direction set factor paired with it. [0][+]. [0][-], [+][0], [-][0]

Dr. Szondi speculated, that there was an intuitive language of choice, a preverbal mode of communication, left over from mankind's ancestors, which made the like and dislike of facial photos of gene set hereditary lines reacted to, as if a mirror of the personality of the subject observing them, when they were viewed in a certan sequence procedure that is to be followed to get the data properly positioned into a psychogram, he called a 'profile', and which, once correctly arraingced, as belonging to eight psychiatric types, can be  then interpreted by persons knowledgeable in this method. A data base of thousands of such psychograms were taken across many differed populations and clinical case types, to serve as keys for decoding when decoded, then may serve to reflect a persons drives, which in turn reflect that person's strivings, traits and needs. This then when correctly understood represents that person's larger psychological drive aspects, his vercisitudes. The Szondi test therfore is to be conceptual as both a drive/impulse psychology and an analysis of vercisitudes.In a further intuitive jump he offered that a person's choice of love mates, friendships, occupation types, and symptoms were driven by one's gene ancestors deermined drives existing  within the constraints of his environment, hence also his thoeories were a measuring of a persons trajectory to his ultimate fate and forms of existence. Thus also a "fate analysis". . At times, he called this approach "Fate-Analytic", to make clear its difference from Freudian and Jungian Psychoanalysis very dominant  in psychiary and psychology at the time. One choice each side is still considered as being an 'open'.

Affinity for all the strivings within the Contact/Cyclic/Polar Vector. "Pan-Tendencies

Szondi's number--C16=Infrequent in the general population.  Affinity for all the strivings within the Contact/Cyclic/Polar Vector. (Pan-Tendencies) Astounding! Mind-Set Event--The full rainbow of strivings--from both polar spectrums, Manic and Depressive existing as active, at one moment in time! Painful-confused.

Szondi seized on the loyal-disloyal attachment strivings within this setting for it's capsule heading. This is, of course correct. But to focus on that aspect may cause an interpretation of an inner crisis, or a grid lock effect, to be overlooked, futher the loading of any Vector with 8 to12 choices, suggests a major overloading in respect to all strivings that that vector plays in the individual's intrapsychic functions, and at the same time limits the choices possible across the the other three  Vectors. [*To be displayed later] (At least one sort of /attention deficit'  cause, we can demonstrate.) This double ambitendency was the least frequent setting in the Contact/Cyclic/Polar Vector, but 'pan-tendency' occurs with more frequency in the other Szondi Test Vectors.(not displayed here) It is unstable and transitional. It may occur more frquently than we know as the event has passed before our test samples can be taken.

The "Horizontal Splt" in the Contact/Cyclic/Polar Vector.

Better characterized as multi-object attachment preferendce inclined, they commonally offer beautiful rationalizations why their endless search for love or substitutions for whatever it means to them, and which should be accepted as the enlighned way to be, live and socialize.  Loyalty to not only to the lost, denied forbidden love object but often a stubborn insistance to not change the situation no matter how little they apprear to get from life. While one cannot attribute psychological masocism to this Vector alone, this dual dislike affiity to both lower ends of the anal-sadistic core and the lower end of the  [d-] characteristically stickly loyalty on the incestious core makes a perfect re-enforcement for the outright sadistically tinged pain to self, pain to others, in various  equivant froms, such as scenarios that are unconsciously arrainged as to create or give suffering, rejection, or characteristically, the killing of joy, in most enjoyment events. Being stuck in the 'lower ends' of the dual specrums of, manic and depressive, is not a pleasurable event. One, in which, various forms of psychological masochism then serves to make life bareable.

The "Vertical Split" in the Contact/Cyclic/Polar Vector.

Here we see aspects suupporting Szondi's view of this Vector, also being more than a mood or cyclic aspect, but as something where the person's drives meet the 'real world' in a characteric way, as that person see's his world in his mind-set at the time. Here [d0][m+/-], the percieved world is as one stuck in an isolation from the useful parts of his [d] strivings and emotionally he lives in an endless battle between his [m+] and [m-], as the  [d0] has shifted it authority to both ends of the manic specrum. An unhappy and often self districtive, suicidal or aberational striking out at others or the world in gereral potentially exists. If mirror-like flips to [d+/-][m0] occurs, the possibility of psychosis should be considered. Often attacment and control issues apppear as a cyclic occurance by pressure from the [m-] strivings, part of the  anal-sadistic core (in Dr. Butler's view.) [d+/-][m0] is similar in the unhappyness aspect but the result is arrises due a strong shift of authority of the manic   srivings side to the depressin spectrum of of polarity with its inclination to oscillate between hunger for love objects oe symbols of such [d+] and the old incestious model that cannot for long reallly serve as a replactment. The result is the person feels at a phobic/anxiety level a fear of losing attachment and/or control of his love objects, his material goods, and even his life itself. The cycling within depression striving poles, because the  lack of an adequate counterbalace, may drive those suffering this setting to seek help, usually after many experiments in self medicate, with alcohol, drugs, reckless behavous or in some cases, to follow criminal careers seizing, or exploiting other peoples valued objects.   Last edit 4-30-2012 Back to home page--->.[X]http://theszonditest01-chirobut.blogspot.com/ Then explore pages and post top right. There is much more.

The Uni-Tendencies in the the Szondi Test.

In an Interpretation the term "Mature" in connection with [d0][m+] is to  be understood as meaning one. who has an affinity or preference to the 'oral type', food, drinking, talking and seeks love object attachments satisfiing these strivings as a 'need'. This generally is a positive social adjustment in type, wither or not any such  person is 'mature' in other aspects of his life. Further, findings stay unchanging over time or over-loaded [m+!]=4 [m=!!]=5 or extreme all 6 [m+!!!]choices. Then this aspect of the person's personality can still be a problem  in her life, deserving attention, when any sort of psychological help work or therapy is being considered.

In Szondi's general population studies, this  choice  affinity [d0][m-!] occurred with slighly less frequency than the the 'mature' [d0][m+], which suggests within the greater gene pool there exists a large number of individuals (men outnumbering women, but even more troublesome when persistent in a woman, where it may also appear as a 'wrong gender issue'.) Characteristially these individuals adjust to and follow the same oral based socializations as others do, sometimes with a more forced driving of themselves to try tp derive the pleasures that others seem to get without appearing to work hard to recieve.  In a persistent affinity to [d0][m-] and if in over-load, the strivings belonging to the [m-] (lower part of the anal-sadistic core, [d+][m-] affinity), may take over as "revolt" agaist the life lacking pleasure or authentic satisfactions, while many live their entire lives wth out serious issues and are able to channel the hypomanic energy into useful activites, a number do not. Pessimism and a potential for suicidal thougts as well a self-harm occurs in some, but not all.

Here the affinity is that which belongs to the [d-] part of the [d-][+] incestour core, as if, no longer optimistic about ever finding a replacement object (no [m+]) he/she pick apart everything around them and at the same time not willing to let any part go, picky, miserly, stubborn but loyal, with occasional reckless or over generous moments. One see's here a tenacity, that reminds us what Freud, called the incest complex, much like the herd instinct of amimals, that holds families and society together.

The SZ Uni-tendencies are useful to serve as explamples of what a per's is revealing about himself from his like or dislike of particular facial photoes of the eight psychiatric conditions Dr. Szondi used for both his test and the psychological concepts he derived from these reactions. In a later  delelopments he created a extensions to the method to measure a person's psychological gender aspects, called the Dur/Moll analysis prodedure.

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