Showing posts with label Bipolar. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Bipolar. Show all posts

Thursday, April 26, 2012

Affinity for all the strivings within the Contact/Cyclic/Polar Vector. "Pan-Tendencies

Szondi's number--C16=Infrequent in the general population. 
Affinity for all the strivings within the Contact/Cyclic/Polar Vector. (Pan-Tendencies)
Astounding! Mind-Set Event--The full rainbow of strivings--from both polar spectrums, Manic and Depressive existing as active, at one moment in time! Painful-confused.
Szondi seized on the loyal-disloyal attachment strivings within this setting for it's capsule heading. This is, of course correct. But to focus on that aspect may cause an interpretation of an inner crisis, or a grid lock effect, to be overlooked, futher the loading of any Vector with 8 to12 choices, suggests a major overloading in respect to all strivings that that vector plays in the individual's intrapsychic functions, and at the same time limits the choices possible across the the other three  Vectors. [*To be displayed later] (At least one sort of /attention deficit'  cause, we can demonstrate.) This double ambitendency was the least frequent setting in the Contact/Cyclic/Polar Vector, but 'pan-tendency' occurs with more frequency in the other Szondi Test Vectors.(not displayed here) It is unstable and transitional. It may occur more frquently than we know as the event has passed before our test samples can be taken.

The "Horizontal Splt" in the Contact/Cyclic/Polar Vector.

Better characterized as multi-object attachment preferendce inclined, they commonally offer beautiful rationalizations why their endless search for love or substitutions for whatever it means to them, and which should be accepted as the enlighned way to be, live and socialize. 


Loyalty to not only to the lost, denied forbidden love object but often a stubborn insistance to not change the situation no matter how little they apprear to get from life. While one cannot attribute psychological masocism to this Vector alone, this dual dislike affiity to both lower ends of the anal-sadistic core and the lower end of the  [d-] characteristically stickly loyalty on the incestious core makes a perfect re-enforcement for the outright sadistically tinged pain to self, pain to others, in various  equivant froms, such as scenarios that are unconsciously arrainged as to create or give suffering, rejection, or characteristically, the killing of joy, in most enjoyment events. Being stuck in the 'lower ends' of the dual specrums of, manic and depressive, is not a pleasurable event. One, in which, various forms of psychological masochism then serves to make life bareable.


The "Vertical Split" in the Contact/Cyclic/Polar Vector.
Here we see aspects suupporting Szondi's view of this Vector, also being more than a mood or cyclic aspect, but as something where the person's drives meet the 'real world' in a characteric way, as that person see's his world in his mind-set at the time. Here [d0][m+/-], the percieved world is as one stuck in an isolation from the useful parts of his [d] strivings and emotionally he lives in an endless battle between his [m+] and [m-], as the  [d0] has shifted it authority to both ends of the manic specrum. An unhappy and often self districtive, suicidal or aberational striking out at others or the world in gereral potentially exists. If mirror-like flips to [d+/-][m0] occurs, the possibility of psychosis should be considered.
Often attacment and control issues apppear as a cyclic occurance by pressure from the [m-] strivings, part of the  anal-sadistic core (in Dr. Butler's view.)



[d+/-][m0] is similar in the unhappyness aspect but the result is arrises due a strong shift of authority of the manic   srivings side to the depressin spectrum of of polarity with its inclination to oscillate between hunger for love objects oe symbols of such [d+] and the old incestious model that cannot for long reallly serve as a replactment. The result is the person feels at a phobic/anxiety level a fear of losing attachment and/or control of his love objects, his material goods, and even his life itself. The cycling within depression striving poles, because the  lack of an adequate counterbalace, may drive those suffering this setting to seek help, usually after many experiments in self medicate, with alcohol, drugs, reckless behavous or in some cases, to follow criminal careers seizing, or exploiting other peoples valued objects.  
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Wednesday, April 25, 2012

The Uni-Tendencies in the the Szondi Test.

 In an Interpretation the term "Mature" in connection
with [d0][m+] is to  be understood as meaning one. who has an affinity or preference to the 'oral type', food, drinking, talking and seeks love object attachments
satisfiing these strivings as a 'need'. This generally is a positive social adjustment in type, wither or not any
such  person is 'mature' in other aspects of his life.
Further, findings stay unchanging over time or over-loaded [m+!]=4 [m=!!]=5 or extreme all 6 [m+!!!]choices. Then this aspect of the person's personality can still be a problem  in her life, deserving attention, when any sort of psychological help work or therapy is being considered.

In Szondi's general population studies, this  choice  affinity [d0][m-!] occurred with slighly less frequency than the the 'mature' [d0][m+], which suggests within the greater gene pool there exists a large number of
individuals (men outnumbering women, but even more troublesome when persistent in a woman, where it may also appear as a 'wrong gender issue'.) Characteristially these individuals adjust to and follow the same oral based socializations as others do, sometimes with a more forced driving of themselves to try tp derive the pleasures that others seem to get without appearing to work hard to recieve.  In a persistent affinity to [d0][m-] and if in over-load, the strivings belonging to the [m-] (lower part of the anal-sadistic core, [d+][m-] affinity), may take over as "revolt" agaist the life lacking pleasure or authentic satisfactions, while many live their entire lives wth out serious issues and are able to channel the hypomanic energy into useful activites, a number do not. Pessimism and a potential for suicidal thougts as well a self-harm occurs in some, but not all.

Here the affinity is that which belongs to the [d-] part of the [d-][+] incestour core, as if, no longer optimistic about ever finding a replacement object (no [m+]) he/she pick apart everything around them and at the same time not willing to let any part go, picky, miserly, stubborn but loyal, with occasional reckless or over generous moments. One see's here a tenacity, that reminds us what Freud, called the incest complex, much like the herd instinct of amimals, that holds families and society together.



 The SZ Uni-tendencies are useful to serve as explamples of what a per's is revealing about himself from his like or dislike of particular facial photoes of the eight psychiatric conditions Dr. Szondi used for both his test and the psychological concepts he derived from these reactions. In a later  delelopments he created a extensions to the method to measure a person's psychological gender aspects, called the Dur/Moll analysis prodedure.
Be sure to search through the old posts and pages shown top right as new material assumes some awareness of context that has already been posted. 

Tuesday, April 24, 2012

The four Tri-Tendencies in the Contact/Cyclic/Polar/ Vector

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 The four settings that are-- "Tri-Tendencies" in the Contact/Cyclic/Polar/Vector have a recognizable influence that deserves close attention. 
While here appears various; sexual issues, abuse, cheating, relationship and mood issues/symptoms, one needs to keep in mind that interpretations just from this end of a person's Szondi Test profile can be misleading.
Understanidly all intra-personality functions affect each other. However the, Sexual/Gender Vector, stands the one most intimately bound with the Contact/Cyclic/Polar Vector.
On the Szondi Profile Grid the left most one is the Sexual 'S' and the right most one as 'C'. With a middle placement of Paroxymal/Emotional 'P' and Ego as 'SCH' where SCH is a reference to schizophrene inheritance. Importantly this 
middle 'P' and 'SCH' Vectors act to moderate and censor both the Sexual and the Contact drives, every human has, varying only in proportion as to ultimately influence the way person the way s/he thinks, feels and acts within the path way permitted by his early conditioning and existing social pressures. Of clinical importance are the non-adjusted or symptomatic casations, where inappropreate or exaggerated strivings, cause perils to the individual, his relationships, or long term to end in an undesirable or dangerous form of existance. 



C8= A mid-frequency occurrence in the general population.




 For the average adjusted person, a less troublesome setting than diagnonal split =[d-][m+] or the uni-tendencies. 



*Core = [d-][m+]=incestous/maternal like/oral socialized.
*Like Affinity= [m+]=preference for oral socializations. 
*Dislike Affinity=[d-][m-]=loyal, stubborn, pessimism, suicidal thinking.revolt under some pressures
*Avoided prong=if inversion asserts, depression, lonelyness, sadistic or harsh moments. 
C 12 = infrequent in general population.


*Core =Analsadist raw core at times active.
*Like Affinity= [d+][m+] readiness to shift to oral socialized   potently the muti-objective desires of [d+][m+]
*Dislike Affinity.[m-]-resignation, revolt, suicidal thoughs.
*Avoided prong:  [d-] Potential inversions, as attempts at lofty, conservative behaviors. Usually stress, drug or hormonal triggered.
C14= infrequent in general population.


*Core =[d-][m+] Incestouos type oral socialization preferred,
*Like Affinity; {d+}[m+] Multi-Object seeking, and strong oral socialization user.{d+!}
*Dislike Affinity; [d-] anal stingyness, picky, conservative
*Avoided prong: Abcent lower part of the harsh anal-sadistic inclinations may suddenly switch to, when under stress pressure, alcohol, drugs or hormonal shifts,



 C15=infrequent in general population.


Prong reading--
*Core =Anal-Sadistic: [d+][m-]
*Like Affinity [d+]= depression, object search.
+Dislike Affinity [d-]= loyalty/hidden incestous desires
 [m-]=resignation/revolt.
*Avoided prong=[m+]=missing optimistic/oral socialization,
may invert to uni-tendency [m+], under overload, alcohol, drugs, hormonal changes.


The other 'Splits' in the Szondi Test: Contact/Cyclic/Polar Vector
Uni-tendency:(4)
Horizontal:(2)
Vertical:(2)
Diagonal:(2)
Tri-Tendency:{4}
Pan-Tendency:(1)
Todal Avidant (1)

Tuesday, March 6, 2012

Fate Analysis answers (descriptively) the issues of human behaviors, from a different perspective



 Site is under constriction and navigation is not fully in place yet. If you arrived here looking for the current study group on the Szondi Test teachings on the experimental findings contrasted  against today's  DSM-IV Bipolar, Manic and Depressive, and the  rewrites of the unique views and insights of Hungarian psychiatrist, Leopold Szondi, MD and his Contact/Cyclic/Polar Vector" --It is presented in  posts and  the pages on the top right.  of oof your screen.





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I can answer most your questions on the Szondi Test and the drive psychology developed by Professor Szondi and its ultimate decribing of the forms of exisance as the fates of humans which filled out his concept of his work being "Fate Analysis."
 Am I normal?--here are many 'Normals' --and mot abnorms are examples of sonething normal existing in an exagerarged or overly presistant form.
I have tender feelings for some of my same sex friends--Am I queer?
My boyfiend is bipolar and sometimes mean to me--can he change?
I've been diagnosed with ADD--does it show up in the Szondi Test?
 Dr. Szondi called the Szondi Test, developed psychological teachings, "Fate Analysis" --As the outcome of your drives, he believed, determines your choices in love mates, friendships, occupation, certain illnesses, and ultimately, the form of existence, you will end up living.
I know it's stupid and not right--and I wish it was otherwise--but I hate my mother--How did I get that way? Did she ot I cause this disconnect?




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Be sure and check "pages" in the right sidebar as that is where the\Contact/Cyclic Vector--Basis of all elements, called "Bipolar" is unfolding at about a section a day, in first draft and 4-30-2012  mostly finished, cleaning up some ambiguities etc--before a study of the Sexual/Gender Vector is attempted in similar detail. -Dr. Butler

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2011 A study of Ego  unfolding was posted. It followed the development of the Szondi Test detectable changes, related to Ego. developent from infancy through chldhood to adult stance. This following, for the most part the astute observations of Susan Deri, along with some of my own later developed views.
The Sexual/Gender and other Szondi Vectors have not really been renamed, or changed, but filled in to make clear what is the focus of each study segment relates to.
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"As filtered out by the Szondi Test; the
personality consists of four gene ancestor
four Vectors of influences, hard wired in the
brain and which serve as foundation for a person's
preferred choice making throughout his life,
his mate, friendships, occupation and
and untimely his dealing methods for
coping with life, his froms of existence.
Dr. Szondi called this at first. the individual's language of choice. A perhaps primative "pre-language" rooted in ancestors eons past.
The four heredity set Vectors; each with various settings which are also modeds of representing  unique functions of the personality.


1] Sexual/Gender "S" [h][s]
2] Paroxysmal/Emotional "P" [e][hy]
3] Ego/Self Direction/Participation "SCH" [k][p]
4] Contact/Cyclic/Polar "C" [d][m]
Each of the four above "Vectors" has within, two naturally opposed primitive gene passed cores that are essential to every humans passage to adult stance. 


It was the insight of Hungarian psychiatrist, Leopold Szondi, that these core elements when existing in an exaggerated form,where also the same or basis to being, the psychiatric condition they resembled. He build at first, a gene ancestor theory derived form gemological studies showing the appearance of psychiatric and  various medical disorders as they showed up in various family heredity lines, as choice preferences recurring in a family line. A laborious reseach lasting over a decade. He longed for a better quicker way to detect these gene set affinities. Stangely, the idea of a projective test using facial photos of person with a family history and clinical diagnosis of the same key psychiatric conditions as the provolver of a like or dislike, he reported came to him a dream. After which he developed the Szondi Test, after first considering calling it, the "Genic Affinity Test".



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Tuesday, February 7, 2012

Szondi's Contact/Cyclic/Mood/Polar Vector (Where Relationships Can Drive one Bipolar..


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The Ego Stages as reflected in the Szondi Test. [2011 Study offering.]

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Szondi's Contact/Cyclic/Mood/Polar Vector (Where Relationships  Can Drive one Bipolar..
 My modernizations here can be wrong,
test everything against the original, please. Feel
 free to question, This is a study group.



Certain Original images (L. Szondi (c) Grune and Straton/ NY./Hans Huber/Bern, Swiss.) were revised for fair use teaching purposes. You are advised to obtain the SZONDI TEST set and books directly  from the copywrite owners. This is educational commentary and the responsibility for the views offered and whatever errors that my reporting makes are my responsibility. Scientific value is left your judgment.


Even without the Szondi Test
the categories and terms
expand will expand how you
view the nature of mankind
when viewed from the various
outcomes of his gene ancestor
 based drive structure.




The Szondi Reagant Photos and the personality traits of those who avoid them as they talke the Szondi Test. I start here because if a frequent finding and not any random occurance, supporting Szondi' contention the photos were of reagent quality useful as a projective test.


Along with some from a generation before you --
you can puzzle on why/how-- out of 48 picture representing, 8 psychiatric types, a person can avoid cossing two specificc types. You don't need the test set to do the mind work that I touch on here, but it is a lot more interesting, with it, especially when you test yourself to to  'see' an image of yourself or others, class mates family and actual cases..

  This common finding C=[d0][m0], in the Contact Vector (Or [Cyclic/Contact Vector] as renamed to include various modes of bonding and contact with aspects of reality also found to be traits and strivings and needs detected to be asserting in manic deppressive individuals. We will try to explore the various  [d] and [m] articulation with Szondi Test of interpretive importance. (And you can deside for yourself it's usefulness and validness.)
RED= 1 LIKE, BLACK= 1 DISLIKE as
seen from a middle line with 6 spaces
above an 6 below, here it is realtiviy
an avoidance in all 4 possible 
directions--Called a double 'open', the 
strivings a decided would indicate
are not "gone" but exist background.










Now going deeper in the specific avoidance of like or dislike of the SZ photos ff the psychometric types manic an depressive. (DSM IV readers need to hold off trying to use today's terms until they cover the full sixteen settings and understand it is settings in the other three Vectors that determe, any final  move to a clinical outcome,  before any clinical outcome beyond normal cyclic is reached thus, there the setting reflect are those mainly normal, but not allways pleasant adjustments that most people make.)


Alone with some from a generation before you --
you can puzzle on why/how-- out of 48 picture representing, 8 psychiatric types, a person can avoid cossing two specificc types. You don't need the test set to do the mind work I touch on here, but it is a lot more interesting, with it, especially when you test yourself to to  'see' an image of yourself.

 We will display one after the other the settings and findings in the Contact Vector (Or [Cyclic Vector] as renamed to include various modes of bonding and contact with aspects of reality, also they are believed to asserting in this [d] and [m] articulation with comment of Szondi Test interpretive importance. as we go.)

 A 'double open'. A  'setting' or 'finding' not so common in the other three Vectors, where the subject avoids BOTH the liking or disliking choices (asumed to be unconsciously made action) as he takes the Szondi Test in the proper sequence. (In your editor's limited experience, this "setting" [d=0][m=0] seemed to be the frequent one of young adults entering into relationships without being ready or transitiional to separation from their families of orign and same time not really ready to bond sincerely with the new significant person  and same time sexual and ego strivings that may be over active. [look to the[ Sexual Vector]. [Paroxysmal Vector and   Ego Vector] for other settings representing what then is ] probably dominating the both thinking and behavior at that moment in time. This image shoe one liked and one same factor disliked, which is relative speaking still avoidance significant, but more often is a single or sometines none at all.


Meet Cyclic Setting #1 of 16] (Order of frequency according to Dr. Szondi)

on here, but it is a lot more interesting, with it, especially when you test yourself to to sort of 'see' an image of yourself.


 Close up of a common finding in the Contact Vector (Or [Cyclic Vector] as renamed to include various modes of bonding and contact with aspects of reality also found to be asserting in  this [d] and [m] articulation with Szondi Test's interpretive importance.)

 A double "open" (we theorise to be)an foreground absence of all the the core strivings of entire  C Vector,  Here the Cyclic/Contact/Polar which is build from the natural antagonists of depressives and manics.
. A double open finding not so common in the other three Vectors,  it is where the subject avoids BOTH the liking or disliking choices (asumed to be unconsciously made action) as he takes the Szondi Test in the proper sequence. (In your editor's limited experience, this "setting" [d=0][m=0] seemed to be the frequent one of young adults entering into relationships without being ready for separation from their families of orign and same time not really ready to bond sincerely with the new significant person  and same time sexual and ego strivings that may be over active. [look to the[ Sexual Vector]. [Paroxysmal Vecto[r and   Ego Vector] for other settings representing what then is ] probably dominating the both thinking and behaviour at that moment in time.

This will get clearer as to significance as we move through the sequence.

Comment: I was introduced to this experimental method by my  (circa 1951-2) professor, who said you just have to see this for yourself. Well seeing it for myself I did, and while now I cop out of any claim of scientific proof. I tell you the same thing.


In the setting [d=0][m=0] (It can also writen as "C=00" leaving out the 'understood' {d}{m}) as making it a sort of jargon thing you will soon master.




Szondi teaches us that subjects being SZONDI Test, procedure is done by his like and dislike choice making of the 48 SZ reagent photos. Therefore the choices the subject has performed an act that can only be explained on a theoretical subconscious  projection basis, the results of which then reflects projectivly his drives, inclinatons and needs (when correctly understood the related strvings asserting, at the time of the test sample was made. This the total system is also a drive psychology.   



The results are said to be made by a subconscious filtering not by chance. Also these setting detected will change paralleled to subjects inner strivings, in respect to their strength and how they are being satisfied. Therefor multiple samplings, usually a series of ten testings of a person needs to be produced before jumping to making anything more than tentative interpretations..





It needs to be remembered that a "setting" reflects the moment repeat samples are

Monday, January 16, 2012

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Index Updated 2-20-12 3-30 pm
Neglected for now as the Cyclic Bipolar Vector is the focus for now. 4-28-12 last edit.




Study group
http://theszonditest01-chirobut.blogspot.com/






The Basic Conflict-Cause of Neurosishttp://chirobut30.blogspot.com/
The constraints of the Szondi Test permits filter...
http://theszonditest01-chirobut.blogspot.com/2012/02/some-miscellaneous-szondi-concepts-post.html






HYPNODOC'S VIRTUAL ONLINE HYPNOSIS
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The Ego Stages as reflected in the Szondi Test. [2011 Study offering.]


http://theszonditest01-chirobut.blogspot.com/2009/08/ego-stages-as-reflected-in-szondi-test.html


DSM IV treats Bipolar as if a disease. But still recognizing that it is connected to the articulation of manic and depressive mood  swings and behaviors. Where Szondi saw the same aspects as part of heredity we all
as humans without exception contains, and the impuses of which drive everyone where it impacts our contact with the world, relationships and the reality one lives in.

;CYCLIC/POLAR/CONTACT VECTOR
Offered a different view than DSM-IV.
 Szondi follows the terms in use a generation earlier .




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