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----------------------------------------------------------------------------- News Update: The Szondi Test Study group is ''open source" in spirit and practice, meaning anyone interested, for any reason can peruse its concepts and teachings. In general, it attracts today mainly students and practitioners in psychology,  social work, religion, education and other specialized counselor types as in relationship, addiction and motivational coaching. Those desiring to self-analyze themselves by following the test results can do so, but need to recognize this test or any of the many self administrated inventories and tests are not any substitute for qualified local professional help.  Those desiring to take the Sxondi Test on-line can do so by reaching me at Hypnodoc@liveperson.con You will have to sign in and search for me or post to the public board that you wish to contact me.

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 This is evidence that there is still interest in the "Szondi Test and the theories of Dr. Szondi several decades after Dr. Szondi's passing. The recent mapping of the human gene discoveries have caused some researchers to review his (1937) gene theory, as to what it is in a person's personality that can be be a gene structured inheritance in respect to. One the discussions, some time back at the Lovaine University (Belgium) is--" to be or not to continue to be Szondians?" Is it the Szondi Test, a false pursuit?, a fiction? Is all this study focus ready to be discarded and all our researches using the Szondi test-to be scraped? How then we do so and give it up, then, do we explain what appears to be consistent dynamic explanations from the tests results that also match verifiable clinical information derived from other sources? It is true that with the march of time, the test photos look so outdated low tech and many of the basic gene related disorders assumptions Dr Szondi used --such as 'Hysteria' and 'Catatonia', are no longer have a place in the labeling system accepted today. .(DSM-IV). Before Dr. Szondi's invention of the Szondi Test, whath he first called the "Genic Affinity Test" his genealogical research had showed recurrences in family lines of eight such recurring conditions, Homosexuals, Sadists, Epileptics. Hysterics, Catatonics, Paranoids, Manic's and Depressive's. Then also is the leap of faith to accept that a subject will like, dislike or ignore these facial photos as a stimulus-response procedure results being a reflection of his own impulses seeking to find satisfaction. That part of Szondi's drive-impulse theory seems so useful for therapists to know in order focus their inquiries on a person's inclinations that he denies or would be otherwise overlooked- When pressed on this point w Szond's answer was--try it yourself. ~ ~ ~ ~

The Sex/Gender Vector the four less common choices Item 005

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It was Dr. Szondi's insight; (Controversial as it may be) that the Factors he identified (Factor word capitalized here to make it clearl that we are talking about the Szondi Test Factors which he believed were gene transmitted and exist in various mixtures in all humans. The Szondi Test he invented and offered as 'Experimental', he believed filters out the relative mixture of the Factors. Each Factor representing strivings belonging to the nature of Factor   named in the eest ensemble. that assertion subjects choices revealed a related potential in a person at the time he took the test, In this view if the select choices werestrong and persistent exageraged and presesient the test subject would probably in some degree be much like the mental disorder, which for purposes of study, a Factor takes its name. Here we are focusing on the [h] [s] pair that make up the Sex/Gender Vector to the exclusion of the other three Vector pairs. Later we will attempt to show the interrelation and ballancing of the settings occurs in all four Vector pairs.

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In the choices made in the general population study a subject making ambivalent choices in both the [h] and [s] Factors would alert the test interpretor that the particular subject has symptomatic issues in that aspect of his life that the Factors represent the impulses, strivings, traits and inclinations related to that Facor. Even among those seeking medical or psychological assistance it is usually associated with obvious crisis events. often but always with anxiety, feelinf blocked, hypochondria, and sometimes, a pressing desire for relief from intolerable life situations or related stresses. It rarely is a persistent choice and is interpreted as 'transitional' and more stable settings for that subject can be expected to soon occur.

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Here the subject makes and ambivalent choice in the [h] Factor and avoids the [s] Factor photos. With the ambient [h] one can asume the whole specrum of the [h] Factror strive for satisfaction with alernations as to the strivings represented by [h+] for tenderness and body rapport and the [h-] strivings for limited body rapport and mental equivalents associated with humanitarian affinities. The [s0] and the unavailability of the strivings belonging to the [s] Factor serves to add to the resulting conflict and potential to anxiety. In one case the setting appeared after a subject's wild and aggressive sexual affair where 'remorse' flooded his thinking afterward.

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xxHere the ambivalence of thin the strivings of the [h+] and the [h-] strvce forsatisfaction though some occultation but the dilike choice in the [s]Factor suggests the interpretation that a bisome channel of regulation and comprmise are accessible by the subject has potentiollly some abilty to try somewhat for best fit to the situation, the sub-setting that exist in the tpe of choice, here the sub-settings of [h+s-], [h-s-] and the rare and therfore unexpected inversion to the missing choice [s+] with sadism potentially being the unrestrained operating striving.

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While the both Facors open in the Vector is the lest frquen in the other three Vectors it is somewhat more freyuent. ThiThe suuject making thos avaidance of both the Facore does so by maeing other coices in the other three Vectors an event difficut to attribute to randon occurrace. To find the correct metaphors to explain interpretively what this represents in respect a person's strivings not driving him to some more comforable setting. in the sex/Gender Vector is something of a task. Szondi's capsule heading -- "Infantile sexuality, abstinence" is relevant and applies generally, but, a searh for some dynamics might suggest something along the concept that all the strivings of the entire sex/gender Vector are (using computer metaphors like in Photo-Shop program)-are ' GREYED OUT' AND NOT ACCESSIBLE FOR USE, until other conditions or procedures of the system have been acted on. Some cases may be endocrine in origin. One suggestion is the sex/gender Vector may be so conflicted by past traimas the subject has to avoid the entire sphere in order to cope with his life situation, or some extreem living out of the strivings have recently occurred. This in some sence reprsents a 'lost of gender" for the subject

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The Sexual/Gender Vector Item 004

Here are the four most common Sexual/Gender Szondi Test Findings, for a pre-WW2 Hungarian population, a base or 4000+ profile samples. in the intervening years, the various social and political events would perhaps, have shifted the order of results, as to frequency of occurrence, but not the interpretive meanings. To understand this system, one has to accept that the like, dislike choices. a subject makes taking the test also serve to approximate that subject's drives, traits and inclinations in his life at the time of of the test. sample..

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Here the subject has chosen both the [h] and [s] photos as like, and in an average amount and not in an excessive amount, also with a 1 choice diskike thus a counter choice, which is considered desirable (as offering some 'restraint' to the strivings implied by a Factor' inate drive potential.. Here [h+] [s+] suggest the striving do not conflict and move togeter but as a working compromise. the [h].and [Factor] If one rt both factors have 5 or 6 choisec this is indentifed as being in 'overload' and reflects that certain perils belonging to the Factor's related drives-trais-impulses, may potentially occur. Thus it may be assumed unbalanced or overloaded (Szondi )Factors represent potential symptomatic inclinations for the sujlect. Especially when occurring over several profils taken at the recommended intervals. [h+]= Need for personal affection, tenderness, body rapport. Feminine-like desires. [s+]= Need for activity. dominance, preferences for masculine activities Body rapport activities may lack tenderness.

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[h+]=As a setting exists in a significant portion of the population both male and female, a choice suggestive of the need for personal affect exists[h+] and same time [s-] is causes the subject to desire it to be satisfied butcan only take indirect and passive, or even masochistic ways to achive satisfactions for the strivings belong to such a direction opposed setting. . [s0] The subject has an indifference to the [s] photos, exeept foe 1 as like and 1 as dislike,(it can be 1 or none at all) therefore the implication is, the [s] strivings in subject's life are being satisfied in some aspects of his life This minimal choice in a Factor is caled an 'open' and swhen present suggests an weak need to act futher to satisfy its stivings. Also it does not seve to restrain the companion Factor in this case [h+].

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S4 Here the subject avoids the [h] photos [h=0] and with this setting,t loses its balancing regulation from the striving belonging to the [h] factor and wih the disliking the [of the [s] photos would be inclined toward inactivity and the masochistic part of the sado-masochistic spectrum that the [s] photos represent.

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S4 Here the subject likes the [h] photos and dislikes the [s]photes, a choice moere common to women and when present in men men suggests an move toward n inclination to a female-like role role in life.. When Factoes are set thid contrasting way, it is called 'a diagonal spilt') Diaggonial splits make strong drive needs to occur but characteristically they lose desirable smoothness or ability to fine tune how its strivings are carried into the relationship needs the two factors represent.

For the next item, for contrast. we will jump to the 'four least frequent occurring' Sexual/Gemder Settings, which represent human outcomes and preference much more difficult or symptomatic for a person.

Szondi Test Study Group Item OO3

Some consideration are in order as you start to explore  and study the Szondi Test and seek to understand its doctrine. The doctrine being in a practical sense, more important than the test applications. Just imagine, if the DSM manual had been written as inventories of traits, behaviors and symptoms ,organized on the eight hereditary factors selected by Dr. Szondi and their particular impulse generations instead of the terms of identifiable consistent labeling that is anattempts to provide and use today as the official psychology vocabulary.  Further the mapping of the human genome, also has renewed interest in the Szondi  theory of gene heredity prototypes as creating a person's inclinations, traits and which potentially influence various choice made outcomes. And in  some cases when the heredity is strong, the very same psychiatric  conditions that Dr. Szondi used in his genealogical research and his invention "The Szondi Test." can be shown to exist in a person's further back in history gene ancestors. The question may never be fully answerable but still worth trying to answer for each of us in our own way to try to some answers,--is 'How much of our mind work,  mood, behaviors and symptoms are outcome results of inheritance are passed on to using the from of drive-needs buried inside of ourselves? While the test itself is the main tool one uses to expose, demonstrate and grasp the Szondi doctrine its use as presented here has the goal to facilitate learning the doctrine with the aim of demonstrating some aspects of this an alternate way of understanding the various human impulse outcomes, that seem deeply hidden under the many cultural pressures and the many rationalizations we ourselves, make.  You, as an inquiring person, will in all probability, wish to try Szondi testing on your self and perhaps others in your circle of acquaintances. As a student of the system you may do so, but with certann cautions, along the direction of keeping such activities  unobtrusive and not claiming it to be other than your research project, with the declaimer that the activity is experimental and a study work, and its usefulness for discussion lies in its unique concepts. cursory remarks as to tension levels or; Factor settings may be offered, and is most useful when the subject is a fellow Szondi Test student or yourself.  ou will mostly likely discover most people you approach to take the test will derive some satisfaction from their curiosity to see the images of alleged mental disorder types and are happy to provide some personal and family history as long as it does not get  too intrusive. As the time passes the test results found, began to shape and expand the test theories. In this way it offered insights useful in assisting teachers, vocational counselors, employment recruiters, criminal profilers in addition to those in the various mental health and therapy professions. Lastly never claim a 'psychiatric diagnosis'  unless you are legally licensed to do so, and have other supporting findings justifying your conclusions. The t est is usually interesting enough mostto potential test subjects will be willing to go along just to see the f  woareee the Szondi Test photos. Should they refuse you need to be gracious,  respect their decision and thank them for their interest and move on to finding to some other subjects.  likely discover most people you approach to take the test will derive some satisfaction from their curiosity to see the images of alleged mental disorder types and are happy to provide some personal and family history as long as it does not get  too intrusive. Most people you may ask to take the test will be interested enough to see the Szondi Test photos  and will be willing to take a shot at doing so. Should they refuse you need to be gracious,  respect their decision and thank them for their interest and move on to finding to some other subjects. later on when opportunities for repeat testing occur it may be useful to explain the  previous test coices  may have changed and that this is not a memory test,  and that they should not linger long over making their choices. In strict controlled research no feedback on previous test findings are given. In the not so strict or casual research some cursory remarks as to tension levels or; Factor settings may be offered, and is most useful when the subject is a fellow Szondi Test student or yourself.   Otherwise it may not useful or wise to attempt to teach every subject, the inner workings of the test protocol and all the possibilities of interpretation.the Szondi Test offers. A suggested approach as to give subject some feedback, is to briefly mention that tensions are caused by some genic affinity wishing to find satisfaction and that normal isas a mixture of genic affinities, as everyone is a mixture of these psychiatric labels that Dr. Szondi uses for his test, One may need to politely as possible cut short conversation while test procedures are in  progress..  You might use remarks  something like--" It might be useful to talk about that later when we have more profiles to review--".

Szondi Study Group item 002

To understand the Szondi Test, you need to accept Dr. Szondi's selection, although critics frequently ask why just these disorders? Dr. Szondi answered something like--".. show me some other ones, that will work in this system--" Each of the six sets of photos, has one photo each to represent, one of the eight  'gene related mental disorders'. each photo represents  an opportunity to be liked or not liked by the person taking the test and a way of filtering out a projected relevance for that person. The interpretive phase that the results are used for then can identify the relative mix of  'drive impulses' that may be seeking to find satisfaction drectly or indirectly at tat time. These as findinf for intertretation may suggest the dynamics behind symptoms and non-adaptive behaviors . As when is the case when drive impulses are not satisfied or out of balance with each other. Generally, it follows, that balanced profiles indicate good coping skills and a adequate adjustment making in life and cause the subject to feel pleasure and satisfaction.  Here the 'equal sign' is used to suggest the general direction each  hereditary 'Factor' generates as an inclinations traits or sometimes symptoms. {The eight Szondi Factors are presented here as arbitrarily modernized by your editor-(FB)-for strict fidelity, always go to original sources.}  Sexual Vector [REGISTRY/GENDER] 1.  homosexual (h)  =Need for tenderness in body rapport. motherly or somewhat feminine soft passive attitude. 2.  sadist (s)  =Need for hardness, in body rapport, physical activity or somewhat masculine aggressive attitude. Paroxysmal Vector [REGISTRY/ SHOW/HIDE EMOTIONS] 3.  epileptic (e)  =potentially emotional control issues seeking satisfaction, often  as sudden moral stance shifts or ethical dilemmas/ 4.  hysterical (hy)  =potentially seeks ways to show self and gain admiration and get positive feed-back from others. Ego Vector  [REGISTRY/THE THINKING SELF] 5. Schizophrenic  catatonic (k) = need/function of introjecton, imitation and build of narcissistic positions. 6. Schizophrenic  paranoid (p)  =need/function of projection, seeking/finding modes  or others for participation  in  satisfying the pressure from the other drives. In exaggerated forms, as a potential to the out-shifting of  inner conflicts. fears, or frustrations, as being seen as being caused by others. Contact Vector [REGISTRY/MOOD AND BONDING[ 7.  depressed (d)  =mood disorder potentially relationship related or triggered. May lead to clinging to or breaking free of attachment bonds. bipolar reactions. Anal personality characteristics. 8.  manic (m)  =mood elevation, in exaggerated forms, irrational optimism. Oral personality characteristics, restless seeking of party like or new adventures.

Szondi Test Study Item 001

Hungarian psychiatrist, Leopold Szondi invention, "The Szondi Test" Dr. Szondi said; worked as a projective test, do to an innate principle that he believed everyone  has, that will  cause a person to like or dislike the facial features  photos of individuals suffering from certan  eight specific mental disorder conditions, used in his test set; in anlog proportions relevant to the photos like and dislike reaction, as if, a mirror of the related drive impulses somewhat as if a mixed mental inheritance traits that are seeking to satisfy themselves.  'Normal', then being, a balanced mixture and 'abnormal' being choice making leading to unwanted symptoms or over time to certain forms of existence  These are do to an unbalanced  'dive impulse 'mixtures. A persons choices of the reagent facial photes then reflect that the test subject person has traits and impulses derived from that person's gene ancestry, that shape a persons preferential choices in his life including sexual mates, friends, occupations, and over time that person's final trajectory in life, therefore in some terms, a fate path.This effect was called 'genotrophism'. Szondi perhaps to attract notice, called this overall work and test use  "Fate Analysis" and the theoretical basis "Fate Analytic Psychology". Introduction Notes: To start with to learn details of the Szondi Test and it's unique theoretical basis, it seens wise to in general to follow the introductory appeach of SUSAN DERI, Dr. Szondi's star student and co-worker. But with the up front caution you will find many revisions are how added do to shifts of emphasis away from Freudian based psychoanalysis in the intervening years since the publication of Deri's, 1948 "Introduction to the Szondi Test -(Grune & Stratton, N.Y.). as well as Dr. Szondi's  own continued  evolution  his own thinking toward a concept of 'states of existance', as being the the end result of an individual's outcome position in life (a person's gene driven fate) only partly modifiable by edication, social pressue ans his significant relationships and environmental pressures.  Further  my own limited  experience with a very different patient base and cultural background location which may have caused me to introduce incorrect revisions, without notice. Please go to original sources should you need total fidelity. My goal is to open up new ways of thinking from which you the inquiring person can decide for yourself, what may or may not be of value to consider.   Interestingly the recent mapping of the human  genome has caused a renewed interest in idea of traits temperaments, impulses, and mental disorders, that might be gene passed. --Dr. B

It's now multiple decades  since,  Leopold ('Lipot'- in Hungarian) Szondi, M.D., World War 1 Hungarian army medic, professor, qualified in both endocrinology and psychiatry and later psychoanalysis, through a training analysis with a  Budapest protégé of  psycoanalyst Sandor Ferenzi, Dr Szondi came to constructed a picture test as an assist to genealogical studies he was conducting in marriage and mate selection genecology studies that he was investigating at the time.  The test material, consisted of 48 photo­graphs of eight types of mental patients who had a clinical diagnosis and a confirmed recurring same disorder in their family history.  Tha test photes were printed on 2"x3" cards in te final test set. Copyrighted as the "Szondi Test" and distributed by Hans Huber Press, Berne Switzerland.  The eight mental disorders represented were ones that Dr. Szondi believed were certain ones gene passed. The original purpose of this test was to prove experimentally his theory about gene passed heredity causing people's choices in life, particularly love and marriage mates in the role of genotrophism being a hidden influence in an individual's choices in his adult life this was quickly extended to a testing of the public and specical clinical populating as the information base expanded and with what was learned from various choices belonging to specific population groups both inside clinical labels and outside groups, such as schools jail populatond and age and occupational groups. This way filling out a knowledge base of many different  psychological types considered normal. different or mental issues types. This led Dr. Szondi to conclude that there are many different normal's that have different paths leading to where the individual finds his position in life, in his later works these are described as 'forms of existence'..   According  to his  theory, the mental disorders repre­sented in the test set are of genetic origin and cause through some inate reflex, he called the non-verbal "language of choice' --('like, dislike or indifference') as the subject's reactions to these select photographs. This has heen called 'fanciful' 'unprovable '-by critics of the test, to whom Dr. Szondi suggested, that they try it for themselves before rejecting it. Dr. Szondi believed that a subject's choice depended upon some automatic simularity between the gene­tic facial structure that in some cryptic way a reagent photo carryed traces of the traits and impulses, a subject will  subconsciously responds to and which then, parallels in the test results choices in life parelling as inclinations in the photo ensemble, a reflection of what are are needs and drives in his life. Test results are a reflection of the subject's  preferences at that moment in time that the Szondi  profile was sampled.  The choices a test subject makes may be stable and some choices may change as subject's life aand  various curcumstances and needs change. This is very notable with inthe  examples of different moods, stages of development, hormonal effects, and with the use of certain medications and street drugs. These  changes do not invalidate the test, and are in fact, one of this test's unique values. most useful for recognizing the changing moods and drive impulse are revealed in sequential different profiles when taken at the recommended, every other day retake of the test. A 'drive-impuse' hypotheses is suggested, as derived from the test interpretative use. It can be considered as posible that that each disorder the test represents, only become that disorder clinically, when existing in a persistent and exaggerated strength, supported by a recessive gene ancestors making the particular disorde a come possible outcome.  'Normal' then, being a balanced mixture of the overall drive-impulses associated with these eight mental inheritance lines universal to our species.  This is reflected as the profiles change as the needs each profile factor {modeled on the inclinations and drive nature the mental disorder it takes its name from} has for a subject in that a subject become indiferent to those factors photo choice process. This is believed to happen when the drive-needs relating to that disorder traits belongin to the eitht mental disorders (also mamed in the test as Factor's}. It is hypothized that the Factors -- have by some means been satisfied. In the test profile such a lack of choices an indifference is called an 'open'  in the Szondi Test jargon you will need to learn. The  cods for disoders selected by Dr. Sondi were: Homosexuality [h], Sadism [s] , Epilepcy [e\, Hysteria][hy], Catatonia [k]. paranoiia, [p]. deesive [d] manic [m] Today these choices may seem odd and several have been purged from DSM-IV as most being obsolite. But before you grap your DSM handbook and leave, you need to eee what Szondi took them to mean in his way of thinking. These terms still have meaning and have only been fragmented and assigned to new labels in the handbook. The photos finally selected for use in the  Szondi Test ensemble were of subject patients known to work well in causing the useful match choice responses  with reliable comparisons to the specific mental disorder for which a reagent or stimulus photo was needed. The test building process was to involve exploring various traits, inclinations and clinical issues to find the correct interpretaion process. were by trial and error practice tested before they were included in final test set. The ensemble has not been revised since its publication. The low tech printing quality of which has been a contention of critics since its publication after world war 2 ended and Dr, Szondi became a Swiss resident and had the resources to publish and continue the development of what he always called his 'experimental test'. My principle source after Szondi himself is Susan Deri who was present during the test development phase, carried out in Hungary before the outbreak of world war 2.  She preferred a psychoanalytic based dynamic model approach for interpretation of the test findings, which differs from the empiric and statistical model apparently preferred by Dr. Szondi himself. There are newer investigators combining more recent revisions in interpretation useage, such as Michael Legrand writing in French and who introduces fresh dialog on the 'forms of existence'  in respect to the ultimate fate of individuals, To take a Szondi Test 'profile'  The subject ts asked in six sets of eight photos each, to choose, without hesitation, the two pictures subject liked most and the two he likes the least. In this way examiner ends up with twelve 'likes' an twelve dislikes'. On the back of each picture is a code to inform the examiner to where to enter the result into a grid designed By Dr, Szondi  to display the result.  The test has been given to groups on slides. Others have set it up on computer screens and web sites where people can take the test without using the physical cards.  Szondi describes his test as an experimental method for revealing the psychologic effects of genes as they direct us in our spontaneous choice actions. Useful for therapists, teachers, occupational counselors and criminologists. Susan Deri 'Introduction to the Szondi Test' (c) Grune & Stratton, NY, NY Szondi, L: 'Schicksalsanalyse'. Basel, Bruno Schwabe, 1948.  Szondi L. Experimental Diagnostics of Drives' 1952 Grune & Stratton NY, NY. Szondi, Moser & all, 'the Szondi Test in Diagnostics' Lippencot CO. Pheledelphia?Momtreal Legrand, Mitchel "Leopold Szondi his test and his doctrine.'(fn French),

Leopold Szondi's Theory of "Genic Affinity"

Hungarian psychiatrist, Leopold Szondi invention, "The Szondi Test" Dr. Szondi said; worked as a projective test, do to an innate principle that he believed everyone  has, that will  cause a person to like or dislike the facial features  photos of individuals suffering from eight specific mental disorder conditions used in his test set in the same proportions relevant to the photos, as if a mirror of the related drive impulses resembling somewhat that mental inheritance traits. Normal, then being a balanced mixture and abnormal are unbalanced mixtures of choices then might reflect a person had traits and impulses derived from that person's gene ancestry that then shape a persons preferential choices of sexual mate, friends, occupations, and over time that person's final trajectory in life, therefore in some terms a fate path. Szondi perhaps to attract notice, called this overall work and test use  "Fate Analysis".

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Follow the newest content down to end and then open  "pages" top right where more content is stored in the form of 'pages'. You need to check pages as they may be more what you are looking for than posts. --Dr. B New---  July 15, 2012 New page on introduction to Dr. Szondi's Conception of the Ego as being represented as the articulation between Catatonia and Paranoia, (the two thought disoders unique to mankind), collectively coded, in the SZ grid as  the Schizophrenic Inheritance (Sch).

The 48 SZ Reagent Photos. in six compartments, each with the facial photos of the 8 psychiatric disorder patients, that Hungarian Professor and Psychiatrist, Dr. Leopold (Lipot) Szondi argued, were the universal inheritance of every human. Here in their-- faded blue box, "The Szondi Test" Copyright/Hans Huber/Bern-Swiss. Still in Production. Further these selected reagent quality photos, are liked. disliked or avoided by people taking the test, very much as a projection of the psychiatric implulse mix unique to that person's personality, as it exists at the time of the test sample. While it is obvious  Dr Szondi and his students took this serioualy, he nevertheless, referred to this mode of research as "The Experimental Diagnostics of Vicissitudes."

Each SZ Reagent photo has a code on the the back. that the test administrator has to transcible into a ingenious grid, where a subject's choices form a "Psychogram", that is then useful for interpretation by counselors, therapists and psychometrists. The Szondi Profile Grid Four SZ Vector or Heredity Spheres Each Psychiatric Disorder is a "SZ FACTOR" Each SZ Vector is built of  2 intimately related  gene antagonists. The are order accross the grid on a what works best in the experimental work. .{S}=Sexual/Gender= [h] erotic overcharged homosexuals [s] sadistic males. {P}=Paroxymal/Emotional=[e](stance and inclinations from); [e] Epileptic  and [hy]  Hysteric inheritance. {Sch} Stance and inclinations from Inheritance Catatonic/Introjective [k] and paranoid projective stance and inclinations [p]. {C} Contact/Cyclic/Bipolar; manic [m] and depressive their stance's and inclinations.

Introduction to the Ego/Self Vector, Szondi Test Modernized

Introduction to the Ego/Self Vector, Szondi Test Modernized Introduction to Leopold Szondi's Unique Exposition of the Ego and it's functions. as a theory derived from the projections of various subjects taken across a varied social and clinical samples.  The "EGO THEORY" of the analysis of vicissitudes ('Vicissitudes' being Dr Szondi's term for his system of understanding the human drives he attributed to all humans. This theory was based upon a number of conceits derived from several decades of research using first, genealogical studies and later, the Szondi Test he invented. The end result of this mode study makes for a different view of the Ego, or Self, than today's, Self Psychologists accept, common usage or as defined by Sigmund Freud, as his well known, Tripartite" concept or Ego, Id and Super-ego. Szondi's view is based on the articulation of what he believed was the neuro-inheritance formed relationship existing between a person's Schizophrene inheritance, which was built from two functional oppositions and is age, hormonal and circumstance modifiable. He saw the pairing of Catatonia= [k] and Paranoia = [p], as being the Ego's genetic based origins. While today one can make many arguments against accepting or that premise, it is difficult to disprove in total. Also the mapping of the human Genome has renewed interest in this concept. Ultimately it is, as Szondi said himself about his larger system "..don't reject my theories until you see for yourself, how well they work."  His theory of ancestor back derived systems of drives, impulses, strivings, and needs is very speculative and interesting but to use the Szondi Test as a practical interment for counseling and therapy, with an intention to expose a person's dynamics and have suable clues to work from, one only needs to use, a practical logic based on reconciling lenitive the test findings with observations or other known facts. This is also the situation with the use of some other projective tests and various inventories in use to day that are aimed at being useful in aiding the counselor/therapist in his work.  Experience show that each therapist/counselor may have to rework some characterization of his findings based on each different client types. The old saying that one size does not fit all-- may ring true at times. Next: The Sixteen Ego Settings as filtered out by The Szondi Test.

Szondi Test "Uni-tendencies" as tool to study personality by exaggerated examples.

Szondi Test "Uni-tendencies" as tool to study personality by exaggerated  examples.\\ A uni-tendency is repsented, as an avoidence projection pared with a like or dislike "decided" coice. In each SZ Vector their are four such possabilities do to the way the test grid is structered. To understand the 'exaggeration' It is useful to see this setting as representing a shift of the control or influence inherent in that SZ factor to the direction set factor paired with it. [0][+]. [0][-], [+][0], [-][0]

Dr. Szondi speculated, that there was an intuitive language of choice, a preverbal mode of communication, left over from mankind's ancestors, which made the like and dislike of facial photos of gene set hereditary lines reacted to, as if a mirror of the personality of the subject observing them, when they were viewed in a certan sequence procedure that is to be followed to get the data properly positioned into a psychogram, he called a 'profile', and which, once correctly arraingced, as belonging to eight psychiatric types, can be  then interpreted by persons knowledgeable in this method. A data base of thousands of such psychograms were taken across many differed populations and clinical case types, to serve as keys for decoding when decoded, then may serve to reflect a persons drives, which in turn reflect that person's strivings, traits and needs. This then when correctly understood represents that person's larger psychological drive aspects, his vercisitudes. The Szondi test therfore is to be conceptual as both a drive/impulse psychology and an analysis of vercisitudes.In a further intuitive jump he offered that a person's choice of love mates, friendships, occupation types, and symptoms were driven by one's gene ancestors deermined drives existing  within the constraints of his environment, hence also his thoeories were a measuring of a persons trajectory to his ultimate fate and forms of existence. Thus also a "fate analysis". . At times, he called this approach "Fate-Analytic", to make clear its difference from Freudian and Jungian Psychoanalysis very dominant  in psychiary and psychology at the time. One choice each side is still considered as being an 'open'.

Affinity for all the strivings within the Contact/Cyclic/Polar Vector. "Pan-Tendencies

Szondi's number--C16=Infrequent in the general population.  Affinity for all the strivings within the Contact/Cyclic/Polar Vector. (Pan-Tendencies) Astounding! Mind-Set Event--The full rainbow of strivings--from both polar spectrums, Manic and Depressive existing as active, at one moment in time! Painful-confused.

Szondi seized on the loyal-disloyal attachment strivings within this setting for it's capsule heading. This is, of course correct. But to focus on that aspect may cause an interpretation of an inner crisis, or a grid lock effect, to be overlooked, futher the loading of any Vector with 8 to12 choices, suggests a major overloading in respect to all strivings that that vector plays in the individual's intrapsychic functions, and at the same time limits the choices possible across the the other three  Vectors. [*To be displayed later] (At least one sort of /attention deficit'  cause, we can demonstrate.) This double ambitendency was the least frequent setting in the Contact/Cyclic/Polar Vector, but 'pan-tendency' occurs with more frequency in the other Szondi Test Vectors.(not displayed here) It is unstable and transitional. It may occur more frquently than we know as the event has passed before our test samples can be taken.

The "Horizontal Splt" in the Contact/Cyclic/Polar Vector.

Better characterized as multi-object attachment preferendce inclined, they commonally offer beautiful rationalizations why their endless search for love or substitutions for whatever it means to them, and which should be accepted as the enlighned way to be, live and socialize.  Loyalty to not only to the lost, denied forbidden love object but often a stubborn insistance to not change the situation no matter how little they apprear to get from life. While one cannot attribute psychological masocism to this Vector alone, this dual dislike affiity to both lower ends of the anal-sadistic core and the lower end of the  [d-] characteristically stickly loyalty on the incestious core makes a perfect re-enforcement for the outright sadistically tinged pain to self, pain to others, in various  equivant froms, such as scenarios that are unconsciously arrainged as to create or give suffering, rejection, or characteristically, the killing of joy, in most enjoyment events. Being stuck in the 'lower ends' of the dual specrums of, manic and depressive, is not a pleasurable event. One, in which, various forms of psychological masochism then serves to make life bareable.

The "Vertical Split" in the Contact/Cyclic/Polar Vector.

Here we see aspects suupporting Szondi's view of this Vector, also being more than a mood or cyclic aspect, but as something where the person's drives meet the 'real world' in a characteric way, as that person see's his world in his mind-set at the time. Here [d0][m+/-], the percieved world is as one stuck in an isolation from the useful parts of his [d] strivings and emotionally he lives in an endless battle between his [m+] and [m-], as the  [d0] has shifted it authority to both ends of the manic specrum. An unhappy and often self districtive, suicidal or aberational striking out at others or the world in gereral potentially exists. If mirror-like flips to [d+/-][m0] occurs, the possibility of psychosis should be considered. Often attacment and control issues apppear as a cyclic occurance by pressure from the [m-] strivings, part of the  anal-sadistic core (in Dr. Butler's view.) [d+/-][m0] is similar in the unhappyness aspect but the result is arrises due a strong shift of authority of the manic   srivings side to the depressin spectrum of of polarity with its inclination to oscillate between hunger for love objects oe symbols of such [d+] and the old incestious model that cannot for long reallly serve as a replactment. The result is the person feels at a phobic/anxiety level a fear of losing attachment and/or control of his love objects, his material goods, and even his life itself. The cycling within depression striving poles, because the  lack of an adequate counterbalace, may drive those suffering this setting to seek help, usually after many experiments in self medicate, with alcohol, drugs, reckless behavous or in some cases, to follow criminal careers seizing, or exploiting other peoples valued objects.   Last edit 4-30-2012 Back to home page--->.[X]http://theszonditest01-chirobut.blogspot.com/ Then explore pages and post top right. There is much more.

The Uni-Tendencies in the the Szondi Test.

In an Interpretation the term "Mature" in connection with [d0][m+] is to  be understood as meaning one. who has an affinity or preference to the 'oral type', food, drinking, talking and seeks love object attachments satisfiing these strivings as a 'need'. This generally is a positive social adjustment in type, wither or not any such  person is 'mature' in other aspects of his life. Further, findings stay unchanging over time or over-loaded [m+!]=4 [m=!!]=5 or extreme all 6 [m+!!!]choices. Then this aspect of the person's personality can still be a problem  in her life, deserving attention, when any sort of psychological help work or therapy is being considered.

In Szondi's general population studies, this  choice  affinity [d0][m-!] occurred with slighly less frequency than the the 'mature' [d0][m+], which suggests within the greater gene pool there exists a large number of individuals (men outnumbering women, but even more troublesome when persistent in a woman, where it may also appear as a 'wrong gender issue'.) Characteristially these individuals adjust to and follow the same oral based socializations as others do, sometimes with a more forced driving of themselves to try tp derive the pleasures that others seem to get without appearing to work hard to recieve.  In a persistent affinity to [d0][m-] and if in over-load, the strivings belonging to the [m-] (lower part of the anal-sadistic core, [d+][m-] affinity), may take over as "revolt" agaist the life lacking pleasure or authentic satisfactions, while many live their entire lives wth out serious issues and are able to channel the hypomanic energy into useful activites, a number do not. Pessimism and a potential for suicidal thougts as well a self-harm occurs in some, but not all.

Here the affinity is that which belongs to the [d-] part of the [d-][+] incestour core, as if, no longer optimistic about ever finding a replacement object (no [m+]) he/she pick apart everything around them and at the same time not willing to let any part go, picky, miserly, stubborn but loyal, with occasional reckless or over generous moments. One see's here a tenacity, that reminds us what Freud, called the incest complex, much like the herd instinct of amimals, that holds families and society together.

The SZ Uni-tendencies are useful to serve as explamples of what a per's is revealing about himself from his like or dislike of particular facial photoes of the eight psychiatric conditions Dr. Szondi used for both his test and the psychological concepts he derived from these reactions. In a later  delelopments he created a extensions to the method to measure a person's psychological gender aspects, called the Dur/Moll analysis prodedure.

Be sure to search through the old posts and pages shown top right as new material assumes some awareness of context that has already been posted.

The four Tri-Tendencies in the Contact/Cyclic/Polar/ Vector

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The four settings that are-- "Tri-Tendencies" in the Contact/Cyclic/Polar/Vector have a recognizable influence that deserves close attention.  While here appears various; sexual issues, abuse, cheating, relationship and mood issues/symptoms, one needs to keep in mind that interpretations just from this end of a person's Szondi Test profile can be misleading. Understanidly all intra-personality functions affect each other. However the, Sexual/Gender Vector, stands the one most intimately bound with the Contact/Cyclic/Polar Vector. On the Szondi Profile Grid the left most one is the Sexual 'S' and the right most one as 'C'. With a middle placement of Paroxymal/Emotional 'P' and Ego as 'SCH' where SCH is a reference to schizophrene inheritance. Importantly this  middle 'P' and 'SCH' Vectors act to moderate and censor both the Sexual and the Contact drives, every human has, varying only in proportion as to ultimately influence the way person the way s/he thinks, feels and acts within the path way permitted by his early conditioning and existing social pressures. Of clinical importance are the non-adjusted or symptomatic casations, where inappropreate or exaggerated strivings, cause perils to the individual, his relationships, or long term to end in an undesirable or dangerous form of existance.  C8= A mid-frequency occurrence in the general population.  For the average adjusted person, a less troublesome setting than diagnonal split =[d-][m+] or the uni-tendencies.  *Core = [d-][m+]=incestous/maternal like/oral socialized. *Like Affinity= [m+]=preference for oral socializations.  *Dislike Affinity=[d-][m-]=loyal, stubborn, pessimism, suicidal thinking.revolt under some pressures *Avoided prong=if inversion asserts, depression, lonelyness, sadistic or harsh moments.

C 12 = infrequent in general population. *Core =Analsadist raw core at times active. *Like Affinity= [d+][m+] readiness to shift to oral socialized   potently the muti-objective desires of [d+][m+] *Dislike Affinity.[m-]-resignation, revolt, suicidal thoughs. *Avoided prong:  [d-] Potential inversions, as attempts at lofty, conservative behaviors. Usually stress, drug or hormonal triggered.

C14= infrequent in general population. *Core =[d-][m+] Incestouos type oral socialization preferred, *Like Affinity; {d+}[m+] Multi-Object seeking, and strong oral socialization user.{d+!} *Dislike Affinity; [d-] anal stingyness, picky, conservative *Avoided prong: Abcent lower part of the harsh anal-sadistic inclinations may suddenly switch to, when under stress pressure, alcohol, drugs or hormonal shifts,

C15=infrequent in general population. Prong reading-- *Core =Anal-Sadistic: [d+][m-] *Like Affinity [d+]= depression, object search. +Dislike Affinity [d-]= loyalty/hidden incestous desires  [m-]=resignation/revolt. *Avoided prong=[m+]=missing optimistic/oral socialization, may invert to uni-tendency [m+], under overload, alcohol, drugs, hormonal changes.

The other 'Splits' in the Szondi Test: Contact/Cyclic/Polar Vector

Uni-tendency:(4) Horizontal:(2) Vertical:(2) Diagonal:(2) Tri-Tendency:{4} Pan-Tendency:(1) Todal Avidant (1)

Fate Analysis answers (descriptively) the issues of human behaviors, from a different perspective

Site is under constriction and navigation is not fully in place yet. If you arrived here looking for the current study group on the Szondi Test teachings on the experimental findings contrasted  against today's  DSM-IV Bipolar, Manic and Depressive, and the  rewrites of the unique views and insights of Hungarian psychiatrist, Leopold Szondi, MD and his Contact/Cyclic/Polar Vector" --It is presented in  posts and  the pages on the top right.  of oof your screen.

Through the magic of the internet I am reachable worldwide. I can answer most your questions on the Szondi Test and the drive psychology developed by Professor Szondi and its ultimate decribing of the forms of exisance as the fates of humans which filled out his concept of his work being "Fate Analysis."
Am I normal?--here are many 'Normals' --and mot abnorms are examples of sonething normal existing in an exagerarged or overly presistant form.
I have tender feelings for some of my same sex friends--Am I queer?
My boyfiend is bipolar and sometimes mean to me--can he change?
I've been diagnosed with ADD--does it show up in the Szondi Test?
Dr. Szondi called the Szondi Test, developed psychological teachings, "Fate Analysis" --As the outcome of your drives, he believed, determines your choices in love mates, friendships, occupation, certain illnesses, and ultimately, the form of existence, you will end up living.
I know it's stupid and not right--and I wish it was otherwise--but I hate my mother--How did I get that way? Did she ot I cause this disconnect?

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Be sure and check "pages" in the right sidebar as that is where the\Contact/Cyclic Vector--Basis of all elements, called "Bipolar" is unfolding at about a section a day, in first draft and 4-30-2012  mostly finished, cleaning up some ambiguities etc--before a study of the Sexual/Gender Vector is attempted in similar detail. -Dr. Butler
passed 2011 A study of Ego  unfolding was posted. It followed the development of the Szondi Test detectable changes, related to Ego. developent from infancy through chldhood to adult stance. This following, for the most part the astute observations of Susan Deri, along with some of my own later developed views. The Sexual/Gender and other Szondi Vectors have not really been renamed, or changed, but filled in to make clear what is the focus of each study segment relates to. --Dr. B
"As filtered out by the Szondi Test; the personality consists of four gene ancestor four Vectors of influences, hard wired in the brain and which serve as foundation for a person's preferred choice making throughout his life, his mate, friendships, occupation and and untimely his dealing methods for coping with life, his froms of existence. Dr. Szondi called this at first. the individual's language of choice. A perhaps primative "pre-language" rooted in ancestors eons past.
The four heredity set Vectors; each with various settings which are also modeds of representing  unique functions of the personality. 1] Sexual/Gender "S" [h][s] 2] Paroxysmal/Emotional "P" [e][hy] 3] Ego/Self Direction/Participation "SCH" [k][p] 4] Contact/Cyclic/Polar "C" [d][m]
Each of the four above "Vectors" has within, two naturally opposed primitive gene passed cores that are essential to every humans passage to adult stance.  It was the insight of Hungarian psychiatrist, Leopold Szondi, that these core elements when existing in an exaggerated form,where also the same or basis to being, the psychiatric condition they resembled. He build at first, a gene ancestor theory derived form gemological studies showing the appearance of psychiatric and  various medical disorders as they showed up in various family heredity lines, as choice preferences recurring in a family line. A laborious reseach lasting over a decade. He longed for a better quicker way to detect these gene set affinities. Stangely, the idea of a projective test using facial photos of person with a family history and clinical diagnosis of the same key psychiatric conditions as the provolver of a like or dislike, he reported came to him a dream. After which he developed the Szondi Test, after first considering calling it, the "Genic Affinity Test".
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